# Conversation with Patri Fridman on actual new cities

- Speakers: [Elaine](https://streameth.org/speakers/elaine), [Patri Friedman](https://streameth.org/speakers/patri-friedman)
- Event: [ZuConnect Istanbul - New Governance ](https://streameth.org/zuzalu/zuconnect_istanbul__new_governance), Istanbul, Türkiye
- Channel: [Zuzalu](https://streameth.org/zuzalu)
- Date: 2023-11-01
- Duration: 36:47
- Watch: https://streameth.org/watch/65b8f8d6a5b2d09b88ec1908

## Description

Beginning with a short video, this dialogue will focus on new cities with a physical component, not network states