# Panel | Ethereum in-Protocol vs. Out of Protocol R&D Symbiosis

- Channel: [ZuBerlin](https://streameth.org/zuberlin)
- Date: 2024-06-13
- Duration: 49:14
- Topics: community building, developers, ethereum, blockchain, panel talk
- Watch: https://streameth.org/watch/666b027107f92b086c2c7767
- Download: https://vod-cdn.lp-playback.studio/raw/jxf4iblf6wlsyor6526t4tcmtmqa/catalyst-vod-com/hls/8c7fpbqrdkp4us62/1080p0.mp4

## Description

Clip The video features a panel discussion among core developers and researchers within the Ethereum ecosystem. They delve into the intricacies of Ethereum's research and development (R&D) pipeline, highlighting how ideas evolve from inception to implementation on the mainnet, often taking years. Tim provides an overview of this pipeline, emphasizing the collaborative and iterative process between researchers, client teams, and the broader community.

The conversation transitions to how different members of the ecosystem engage with R&D at various stages. Tomas shares insights from Nethermind's perspective on growing within the ecosystem and supporting research projects early on. The panelists also discuss the importance of budgeting for experimentation to strengthen ideas before they are considered for a hard fork.

Vitalik expresses his preference for EIP-1559 due to its comprehensive analysis by economist Tim Roughgarden. The discussion then turns to the complexity of communicating research through EIPs and blog posts, with Barnabé explaining his approach to sharing ideas publicly for feedback.

Justin describes Ethereum's R&D as a pipeline with 'resistors' representing different stages like research, development, and community acceptance. He envisions an 'endgame spec' where all the best ideas are combined in a holistic view of Ethereum's future.

The panel touches upon topics like account abstraction,