# From Custody to Capital Markets Infrastructure | Diogo Mónica & Kartik Talwar at Pragma Lisbon 2026

- Speakers: [Kartik Talwar](https://streameth.org/speakers/kartik-talwar)
- Channel: [ETHGlobal](https://streameth.org/ethglobal)
- Date: 2026-09-09
- Duration: 23:47
- Topics: ETHGlobal, Pragma Lisbon 2026, Lisbon, 2026, Diogo Mónica, Kartik Talwar, Haun Ventures, Anchorage Digital, crypto custody, capital markets infrastructure, institutional crypto, crypto banking, AI agents, digital payments, fireside chat, Pragma Lisbon, crypto custody infrastructure, institutional crypto custody, digital asset capital markets, crypto bank infrastructure, regulated crypto banking, federal crypto bank, institutional digital assets, Haun Ventures crypto
- Watch: https://streameth.org/watch/yt-A-Df-1GEaio
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-Df-1GEaio

## Description

Haun Ventures General Partner Diogo Mónica joins ETHGlobal Co-Founder and CEO Kartik Talwar to discuss crypto’s progression from secure custody to full capital-markets infrastructure. Drawing on his experience co-founding Anchorage, Mónica explains why the company paired advanced security with a federal banking framework and how regulated institutions compound trust, capital, and operating capability over time. The conversation asks where crypto-native value accrues as traditional financial firms adopt blockchain technology and whether banks, infrastructure providers, or open protocols will capture the next phase of growth. Mónica explains that Anchorage was designed around two requirements that institutional customers could not separate: cryptographic security and a regulatory structure they understood. Becoming a federally chartered bank created long-term obligations but also allowed the company to compound trust, capital, products, and customer relationships.

They explore product ideas at the intersection of crypto, artificial intelligence, payments, and verifiable digital activity. AI systems create new demand for cryptographically verifiable records of model behavior, reasoning, and outputs, even if many experiments serve narrow markets before reaching scale. Mónica also reflects on moving from operator to investor and on evaluating businesses across the ecosystem. His advice to founders is durable and category-agnostic: work on a real problem, understand the customer, keep experimenting through difficult cycles, and make something people want. Infrastructure succeeds when it converts technical possibility into a product institutions or users repeatedly choose. The discussion then turns to emerging infrastructure that may create new demand. Mónica argues that model behavior and outputs can be recorded in indelible ledgers with cryptographic signatures, and that zero-knowledge proofs are becoming efficient enough to verify computation. The conversation also points to Cloudflare’s work on bringing payment mechanisms and verification into the network stack.

00:00 Introduction to Diogo Mónica
01:12 From Anchorage Founder to Investor
01:39 Balancing Investing and Operating
02:17 Professionalizing Angel Investing
02:59 Business Curiosity Beyond Anchorage
03:15 The Long Path to a Federal Charter
04:12 Anchorage and the Trust Bank Model
04:29 New Tailwinds for Modern Banks
05:07 The Cost of Regulatory Resistance
05:45 Security, Regulation, and Compounding
06:34 Crypto Extends Traditional Finance
06:59 Where Financial Value Accrues
07:43 Self-Custodial Financial Products
08:14 Faster Access to Financial Licenses
08:34 Crypto Neobanks and Card Products
09:47 Stablecoins Replace Whitelists
11:12 Libra and New Currency Experiments
12:02 Why Unlikely Experiments Are Worth Trying
12:18 Consortium Coins for Commerce
13:13 Distribution as Part of Product Design
13:48 Open Areas in Financial Infrastructure
15:09 Cryptographic Records for AI Models
15:53 Zero-Knowledge Proofs for AI Outputs
16:44 Economic Incentives for Intelligent Agents
18:07 Verifying the Internet Stack
18:28 Cloudflare and Network-Level Payments
19:13 What Founders Ask Investors
20:14 Security and the Basics of Building
20:56 Advice Through Difficult Market Cycles
21:36 Build Companies, Not Crypto Projects
22:36 Stablecoin Neobanks and Dollar Access
22:54 From Dollars to Tokenized Stocks
23:27 Make Something People Want

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🇵🇹 *Pragma Lisbon 2026*
Pragma Lisbon 2026 was held on June 25th at the Carlos Lopes Pavillion in Lisbon, Portugal and was an in-person summit for builders and leaders in the web3 ecosystem. Watch the full Pragma Lisbon 2026 YouTube Playlist here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMxB4xW8JYdk

ETHGlobal's Pragma series takes place in cities around the world, and is designed to be a different kind of event. Pragma is a one-stage conference with founders-only on stage, bringing together a small group of curated attendees and speakers to discuss the future of web3 and reflect on the past. 

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