# Dennison Bertram I Tally Product Announcement | Pragma Waterloo

- Channel: [ETHGlobal](https://streameth.org/ethglobal)
- Date: 2023-10-09
- Duration: 29:05
- Topics: Tally, Tally Swaps, Dennison Bertram, DAO governance, CoW Swap, Milkman contract, MEV protection, decentralized finance, DAO tooling, no-code proposals, on-chain treasury, DAO swaps, token swapping, Arbitrum DAO, ENS DAO, Uniswap DAO, Nouns DAO, treasury diversification, price checkers, slippage protection, smart contract governance, credible neutrality, public infrastructure, decentralized protocols, governance automation, Pragma Waterloo, Ethereum DAO tools
- Watch: https://streameth.org/watch/yt-Aad9c2entVs
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aad9c2entVs

## Description

Join Dennison Bertram, co-founder and CEO of Tally, as he unveils Tally Swaps—a powerful new on-chain swap feature for DAOs powered by CoW Swap and the Milkman contract. In this talk from Pragma Waterloo, Dennison explains how DAOs can now perform MEV-protected token swaps without centralized intermediaries, while maintaining trustless transparency, price protection, and no-code proposal creation.

Learn how Tally supports DAOs managing billions in treasury assets like Uniswap, Arbitrum, ENS, and Nouns DAO, and why decentralization, governance tooling, and credible neutrality are critical to scaling public Web3 infrastructure.

00:00 Intro to Tally and Dennison Bertram
00:48 What Tally does and who it's for
01:59 Tally’s no-code tools and proposal simulations
03:34 Why treasury management matters for DAOs
04:43 DAO treasury examples: Arbitrum, ENS, Nouns
06:14 Challenges DAOs face with token swaps
07:52 MEV risks and lack of trustless execution
08:50 Current DAO swap solutions are centralized
09:24 Enter CoW Swap and the Milkman contract
10:33 Introducing Tally Swaps: on-chain, MEV-protected
11:36 No-code swap interface and price protection
12:47 Full demo: create and execute a DAO swap proposal
14:20 Time-delayed execution and fair market pricing
15:52 Price checkers, slippage settings, solver network
17:26 On-chain transparency and execution flow
18:51 Tally’s broader mission to support DAOs
19:55 Origin story of Tally from Crypto NYC days
21:01 The comp token moment and the rise of DAO utility
22:31 Why DAOs matter: credible neutrality at scale
23:39 The Zynga problem and risks of central platforms
25:21 Why public infrastructure must be decentralized
26:30 Delaware courts vs decentralized governance
27:36 DAOs as political arenas for protocol decisions
28:35 Closing reflections on trust, fairness, and scaling

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