# Cross-Chain Bridging - Next Generation of Safer Bridges & How Bridges Still Suck with Daniel Lumi

- Speakers: Daniel Lumi
- Channel: [Ethereum Denver](https://streameth.org/ethereum-denver)
- Date: 2023-10-07
- Duration: 22:14
- Watch: https://streameth.org/watch/yt-K388ImxWsqM
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K388ImxWsqM

## Description

What is the next generation of bridges which are much more trust-minimized & more secure? Can we ever make cross-chain bridges fully safe or do we need to stay in a specific blockchain? Are L2 rollups, which are also technically bridges, any better? Does fractal scaling on l2 fix these bridge issues? We will discuss these the future of bridges so users can make informed choice.

Daniel Lumi
Web3 Researcher & Consultant
Independent
Specializing in L2s, ZK, Privacy, & DAOs
https://twitter.com/zklumi