# Ayush Ranjan I Building DePINs with Less "P" I Huddle01 I Pragma Singapore 2024

- Channel: [ETHGlobal](https://streameth.org/ethglobal)
- Date: 2025-10-09
- Duration: 20:42
- Topics: DePIN, decentralized infrastructure, RTC, real-time communication, Huddle01, Ayush Ranjan, Pragma Singapore, QoS, quality of service, peer-to-peer video, Web3 video calls, digital nodes, livestreaming Web3, mesh networks, Zoom alternative, ViVIN, low latency, decentralized video conferencing, crypto infra, AWS costs, edge computing, scalable DePIN, SDK for RTC, bandwidth network, Huddle01 Meet, tokenized communication, decentralized apps, WebRTC alternative, immersive calls
- Watch: https://streameth.org/watch/yt-MlpO71BrR08
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlpO71BrR08

## Description

In this keynote from Pragma Singapore 2024, Ayush Ranjan, Co-founder and CEO of Huddle01, dives deep into the future of Decentralized Physical Infrastructure Networks (DePIN) and how Huddle01 is pioneering Realtime Communication (RTC) on a decentralized mesh. Learn how Huddle01 reduces latency, cuts infrastructure costs, and decentralizes communication by running on community-powered media nodes.

Ayush outlines why "less physical" in DePIN (aka more digital-first) results in better scalability, economics, and trust. He also reveals how Huddle01’s QoS-driven approach enables verifiable, low-latency communication across the globe. Whether you're a builder, founder, or investor in Web3, DePIN, or communication infrastructure, this talk is packed with technical insights, protocol design philosophies, and bold predictions for the future of decentralized connectivity.

00:00 Intro to DePIN and Huddle01
00:58 What is Realtime Communication (RTC)?
01:28 RTC’s role in decentralized infrastructure
01:59 High cost of RTC and AWS reliance
03:00 Geographical latency issues in video calls
04:03 Why communication innovation stalled
04:28 Understanding DePIN and its digital vs physical layers
05:23 The DePIN debate: More or Less “P”?
06:25 Introducing Virtual Infrastructure Networks (ViVIN)
06:54 Verifying nodes through QoS, not hardware
07:22 QoS metrics: bitrate, packet loss, latency
08:20 Solving sub-100ms global latency
09:18 Node specs and performance validation
09:48 Making QoS tests tamper-proof
10:19 Defining network score thresholds
10:49 Importance of low latency in LLM interactions
11:14 Scaling digital networks without logistics
11:42 Huddle01’s subsystem architecture
12:11 Meet app: P2P, secure, decentralized Zoom alternative
12:38 SDKs for integrating RTC in 5 minutes
13:05 Media nodes and people-powered infrastructure
13:35 Internet speed & privacy in decentralized RTC
14:08 Easy node setup and bootstrapping rewards
14:36 Why DePINs must build their own demand
14:59 Sustainable business model through RTC SDK
15:23 Revenue and adoption metrics
15:53 180p quality and immersive communication
16:20 Solving latency for immersive & VR use cases
16:52 The Huddle01 economy explained
17:20 Who is using Huddle01 today
17:52 Video conferencing + livestreaming on one platform
18:24 What’s next: nodes, partners, staking, whitepaper
19:03 The team and global infrastructure footprint
19:33 RTC: the hardest bandwidth layer to solve
20:03 Two keys to scaling DePIN successfully
20:32 Closing remarks

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🇸🇬 *Pragma Singapore*
Pragma Singapore 2024 was a special gathering of founders and builders that took place September 19, 2024 at the Fullerton Hotel in Singapore.  Pragma Singapore 2024 was an opportunity discuss the future of web3 and reflect on the past. Watch the full Pragma Singapore playlist here: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXzKMXK2aHh6z0saYJnVdgXWfz-vaoEYx&si=uavhkhF5Kc8XBoLv

ETHGlobal's Pragma series takes place in cities around the world, and is designed to be a different kind of event. Pragma is a one-stage conference with founders-only on stage, bringing together a small group of curated attendees and speakers to discuss the future of web3 and reflect on the past. 

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