# From idle TVL to active utility: making RWAs work in DeFi | ETHWarsaw [4]

- Channel: [ETH Warsaw](https://streameth.org/eth-warsaw)
- Date: 2025-11-09
- Duration: 58:15
- Watch: https://streameth.org/watch/yt-XNwlOFljpqE
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNwlOFljpqE

## Description

$25B+ in tokenized Treasuries and credit pools
Sounds great. Until no one uses them.

Speakers:
- Vivien Lin (BingX)
- Stanisław Koper (Canary Protocol)
- MikeMassari (RedStone)
- Stephan Tkach (United Network)
Moderator: Mariia Yatsenko (Centrifuge)

🎥 Recorded at ETHWarsaw 2025

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