# Fireside Chat With Hsiao Wei Wang And Kartik Talwar at Pragma Taipei 2025

- Speakers: [Kartik Talwar](https://streameth.org/speakers/kartik-talwar)
- Channel: [ETHGlobal](https://streameth.org/ethglobal)
- Date: 2025-10-09
- Duration: 26:17
- Topics: Ethereum Foundation, Pragma Taipei, Hsiao Wei Wang, Ethereum roadmap, layer 1 scaling, censorship resistance, inclusion lists, chain abstraction, P2P networking, application layer, co-executive director, Vitalik Buterin, L2 interoperability, validator ecosystem, blob transactions, petra upgrade, developer ecosystem, decentralized governance, blockchain privacy
- Watch: https://streameth.org/watch/yt-neSSJR_2Zvk
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neSSJR_2Zvk

## Description

In this Pragma Taipei 2025 fireside chat, Ethereum Foundation Co-Executive Director Hsiao Wei Wang joins Kartik Talwar to discuss Ethereum's roadmap for 2025. They cover key initiatives like P2P networking improvements, application layer development, scaling solutions, and censorship resistance through inclusion lists.

Wang shares insights on her new leadership role, working with Vitalik Buterin, and the importance of chain abstraction for L2 interoperability. The conversation also explores what makes Ethereum unique for developers in today's multi-chain landscape.

00:04 - Introduction and welcome to Pragma Taipei 2025
01:38 - Ethereum Foundation's 2025 priorities and new initiatives
04:02 - Co-leadership dynamics with Aya Miyaguchi
06:58 - Transition from research to leadership role
10:36 - Surprises in moving to executive position
12:18 - Ethereum L1 improvement areas for 2025
14:52 - How inclusion lists combat censorship
17:12 - Measuring Ethereum's throughput improvements
18:04 - L2 interoperability and chain abstraction
20:44 - Explaining chain abstraction technology
22:41 - Working with Vitalik Buterin
23:27 - Success metrics for Ethereum Foundation leadership
24:16 - Message for developers choosing platforms
25:45 - Why decentralization matters for crypto adoption

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🇹🇼 *Pragma Taipei*
Pragma Taipei 2025 was held on April 3rd at POPOP in Taipei, Taiwan and was an in-person summit for builders and leaders in the web3 ecosystem. Watch the full Pragma Taipei YouTube Playlist here: 

ETHGlobal's Pragma series takes place in cities around the world, and is designed to be a different kind of event. Pragma is a one-stage conference with founders-only on stage, bringing together a small group of curated attendees and speakers to discuss the future of web3 and reflect on the past. 

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