# Privacy & Freedom of Dissociation in 0xbow | Ameen Soleimani, Vitalik Buterin

- Speakers: Ameen Soleimani, [Vitalik Buterin](https://streameth.org/speakers/vitalik-buterin)
- Channel: [Ethereum Cypherpunk Congress](https://streameth.org/ethereum-cypherpunk-congress)
- Date: 2024-10-07
- Duration: 01:18
- Topics: Education
- Watch: https://streameth.org/watch/yt-qJmc15KJHIc
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJmc15KJHIc

## Description

Short from the post-keynote chat between Ameen and Vitalik at Web3Privacy Now Summit II, May 30 - 2024

Ameen Keynote "The Fight For Privacy"

https://x.com/0xbowio
https://x.com/ameensol
https://x.com/VitalikButerin

## Transcript

[Music] I think freedom of Association implies freedom of dissociation and so if I if if you force me to give that up just to have some privacy in your tool then maybe I don't want to use your tool you know I I I might prefer the version of it that allowed me to dissociate from some of the users that I didn't want to either get privacy from or give privacy to so I think privacy pools gives you more sovereignty more Choice as a user uh than those systems do the downside of course is that it requires a lot of computation and monitoring and surveillance in order to be able to come up with these lists at all and individual users of the systems are typically not equipped to do that kind of analysis and so they have to depend on some sort of third party to do the monitoring and that introduces you know a slight additional trust assumption uh as it goes so is uh is the goal of Oxo to become the global World blockchain Police or are there other providers that are going to show up [Music]