# Fireside Chat With Ink Protocol I Andrew Koller & Kartik Talwar at Pragma Denver 2025

- Speakers: [Kartik Talwar](https://streameth.org/speakers/kartik-talwar)
- Channel: [ETHGlobal](https://streameth.org/ethglobal)
- Date: 2025-10-09
- Duration: 19:48
- Topics: Ethereum, Ethereum Foundation, Andrew Koller, Ink, Pragma Denver, ETHGlobal, Kraken, Optimistic L2, OP Stack, super chain, CeFi to DeFi, institutional liquidity, decentralized sequencer, interoperability, EVM compatibility, user onboarding, low-latency block times, base chain, bridging on-chain, security, liquidity, trustless finance
- Watch: https://streameth.org/watch/yt-tQUOMjcxcnY
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQUOMjcxcnY

## Description

Join Andrew Koller, Founder of Ink Protocol, and Kartik Talwar for a fireside chat at Pragma Denver 2025. Discover how Ink Protocol—an Optimistic L2 built on the OP Stack—is bridging centralized exchange users from Kraken into DeFi.

Andrew shares Ink’s focus on user experience, how it’s attracting institutional and retail liquidity, and why decentralization and low-latency block times remain top priorities. Learn how base chain interoperability, EVM compatibility, and Kraken’s ethos of “don’t trust, verify” are guiding Ink Protocol’s roadmap as it onboards millions of potential new on-chain users.

If you’re curious about L2 adoption, bridging CeFi and DeFi, or the future of secure, scalable blockchains, you won’t want to miss this insightful conversation.

00:00 Introduction & Fireside Chat Overview
00:47 Founding Ink Protocol: Bringing Kraken Clients On-Chain
02:25 Why an Optimistic L2? Early Experiments & Lessons
04:22 Choosing the OP Stack & Super Chain Advantages
06:08 Managing the Sequencer & Decentralization Plans
09:27 Focus on DeFi Partnerships & Institutional Adoption
11:58 Challenges for Institutions & Regulatory Considerations
13:21 Exchange Chain Lessons: Observing Binance & Others
16:10 Launching Early & Developer Feedback
17:38 Opportunities & Concerns for Ink’s Future
19:03 Conclusion & Next Steps

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🇺🇸 *Pragma Denver*
Pragma Denver 2025 was held on February 25th at ReelWorks in Denver, Colorado and was an in-person summit for builders and leaders in the web3 ecosystem. Watch the full Pragma Denver YouTube Playlist here: 

ETHGlobal's Pragma series takes place in cities around the world, and is designed to be a different kind of event. Pragma is a one-stage conference with founders-only on stage, bringing together a small group of curated attendees and speakers to discuss the future of web3 and reflect on the past. 

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