# James Wo (DFG) - There’s no Web3 future without chain abstraction

- Speakers: James Wo
- Channel: [EthCC](https://streameth.org/ethcc)
- Date: 2025-10-25
- Duration: 14:09
- Watch: https://streameth.org/watch/yt-uqaC1SDFlA0
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqaC1SDFlA0