Fireside Chat I Joe Lubin, Consensys, and Kartik Talwar, ETHGlobal | Pragma New York 2023

Mon, Oct 2, 2023, 12:00 AM

Joe Lubin, co-founder of Ethereum and founder of Consensys, sits down with Kartik Talwar at Pragma New York 2023 for a far-reaching conversation on the future of Ethereum, regulation, decentralized identity, and building in crypto’s most pivotal moments. From MetaMask and Infura’s decentralization roadmap to thoughts on the SEC, Layer 2s, attestations, ZK rollups, and the evolution of Web3 governance, Joe offers a masterclass in navigating the crypto ecosystem. He explores the tension between governments and decentralized tech, the need for a base trust layer, the rise of decentralized social graphs, and how AI must align with decentralized protocols. This is a must-watch for builders, regulators, developers, and crypto-native thinkers. 00:00 Intro to Joe Lubin and Ethereum’s future 00:34 SEC, regulation, and decentralization 01:45 Why governments fear crypto’s trust model 03:17 Supreme Court, Ripple, and SEC overreach 05:01 How MetaMask navigates regulatory pressure 06:21 The clash of civilizations: crypto vs C5 07:54 Building tech under political resistance 09:18 Regulating use cases vs regulating protocols 10:44 Money crypto vs tech crypto explained 12:04 Ethereum’s scale after the Merge 13:20 Bitcoin doubts vs Ethereum confidence 14:52 What comes after disintermediation 15:26 Attestations and decentralized identity 16:47 Destroying Web2 social graphs with Web3 18:08 Why immutable attestations matter 18:42 Attestations as an unlock for developers 19:16 Why Joe founded Consensys 21:18 Consensys’ mission and paradigm shift 22:56 Redefining ‘enterprise’ in Web3 24:27 Global trust layers and treaty enforcement 25:03 Updates on MetaMask and Infura’s progress 26:34 Infura decentralization roadmap 28:39 MetaMask Snaps and plugin ecosystem 30:21 Decentralizing MetaMask governance 32:14 Why Consensys launched Linea L2 33:39 Regional blockspace and multichain future 34:20 L2 values, ethos, and ecosystem diversity 35:32 Shared sequencers and decentralizing L2s 36:18 Are we closer to network states? 37:00 Governance layers and DAO infrastructure 38:32 Why governance is so difficult 39:01 How Joe Lubin stays motivated 40:16 The risk of centralized AI power 41:05 Why decentralization is more vital than ever _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 🇺🇸 *Pragma New York* The fifth edition of Pragma took place in New York in September 2023 with a curated series of high-quality talks that sparked thought and discussion. Pragma is a one-stage conference with founders-only on stage, bringing together a small group of curated attendees and speakers to discuss the future of web3 and reflect on the past. Watch the full Pragma New York 2023 playlist here: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXzKMXK2aHh6xsRbmx2niHEDyOyt1mddu&si=6Ic960b2hQyz9RGw ETHGlobal's Pragma series takes place in cities around the world, and is designed to be a different kind of event. Ever since we first introduced our new event series, Pragma, in Tokyo in the spring of 2023, we have been fostering a curated, global community of individuals who deeply care about web3. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ✅ *Follow Joe Lubin* X: https://x.com/ethereumJoseph ✅ *Follow Consensys* X: https://x.com/Consensys ✅ *Follow Kartik Talwar* X: https://x.com/therealkartik Warpcast: https://warpcast.com/kartik ✅ *Follow ETHGlobal* X: https://x.com/ETHGlobal​ Warpcast: https://warpcast.com/ethglobal Website: https://ethglobal.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ETHGlobal _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _Are you interested in Ethereum development and entrepreneurship?_ 👉 Sign up for the next ETHGlobal event: https://ethglobal.com/events 🎁 Get exclusive access and perks with ETHGlobal Plus! https://ethglobal.com/plus 📣 Want us to throw an event in your city? Tell us where! https://ethglobal.com/city _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _