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You know what’s going to get us from web2 to web3? Therapy by simona pop | Devcon SEA

DevconTue, Oct 7, 2025, 12:00 AM

2024 has been about thinking how we avoid recreating the same systems just "over here". And it has to start with our intentions and our ability to make decisions from a better place vs continuing to be influenced by scarcity mindsets, disregulated nervous systems and a burntout collective. I delve deeper into this here https://pop.mirror.xyz/JoTHH4cSRw967mphJqur6hWS6vQx0q89ee0WnO1o63g Speaker(s): simona pop Skill level: Intermediate Track: Coordination Keywords: future Follow us: https://twitter.com/efdevcon, https://twitter.com/ethereum, https://warpcast.com/devcon Learn more about devcon: https://www.devcon.org/ Learn more about ethereum: https://ethereum.org/ Visit the https://archive.devcon.org/ to gain access to the entire library of Devcon talks with the ease of filtering, playlists, personalized suggestions, decentralized access on Swarm, IPFS and more. Devcon is the Ethereum conference for developers, researchers, thinkers, and makers. Devcon SEA was held in Bangkok, Thailand on Nov 12 - Nov 15, 2024. Devcon is organized and presented by the Ethereum Foundation. To find out more, please visit https://ethereum.foundation/

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have a very special speaker Simona pop she's going to give us a talk on you know what's going to get us from web 2 to web 3 therapy let's welcome [Music] Simona hi hello hi um okay so this is a super sped up version of the talk that I gave at ECC this year with slight improvements obviously cuz I wasn't going to talk to you about the same thing um these are my socials so we can continue this conversation because this is going to be a marathon I talk a lot so we're going to go a little bit over sorry um okay so what's going to get us from Web Two to web 3 it's clearly therapy um here's the agenda like these are all slides that you can take photos of and then um read later because I'm going to go real fast so I tweeted this um pretty much a year and a bit ago um because I very very uh deeply felt it at the time uh this is after um I burnt myself out and had to like the end of 2022 at Devcon in Bogota somebody asked me Simona what are you excited about next year and I said nothing and so I was like oh damn that's not good um and so I realized and I used to like fool myself and say oh yeah I was on the brink of burnout no it's probably burnout for like a year and a half um I have been in this ecosystem for seven years it is very intense as we know and we kind of need to be mindful of how we're treating the humans behind the protocols and the humans behind the tech I say this with personal interest in mind because therapy has benefited me greatly um we're in a space of all of The Innovation and the thing is we have all of these ingredients where that are prime for Innovation we're free to think experiment and speculate however the technology isn't the only thing that's going to help us innovate we need a shift in the values and the thinking and the way we approach things and I genuinely believe that we need that in order to build better things or build things different ly why because as maslo we know him he loves pyramids he said you can continuously go towards growth or fall back into safety what keeps us into safety even when it is very very bad for us our nervous system is designed to keep us safe even if it is again bad think of it from bless you think of it from the perspective of web two going into web 3 some some people and a lot of people actually would rather remain where they are because they're afraid to grow let us not be in that space and have and facilitate within ourselves and within our Collective the opportunity and the way for us to continue towards growth again not just technological but also in terms of human thriving because I firmly believe that the societies and economies we build are a reflection of our conscious and unconscious conditioning we have been conditioned and bastardized into intense scarcity mindsets intense just combative and extractive ways of Behaving and being that I genuinely think if we are going to build something different with this technology because of this technology we need to shift out of that and we need to be aware enough to know what we are doing in order to do that until you make the unconscious conscious it will direct your life and you will call it fate we have the opportunity because of this incredible technology that we're all working on if we're aware enough we can actually not just repeat the stuff that we have built just over here we have the ability and the opportunity to genuinely change things and redesign things at many many different levels that get to benefit us personally that get to benefit us as a collective that get to benefit us hopefully for generations to come lot of responsibility um but what it also does when you're self-aware and when and we're leading into this oh my God I'm going so slow okay uh you can access like higher core needs right those take a photo of that because those are important when you're stressed you do not think about those things you think about how can I get mine how can I satisfy my base B needs and you make bad decisions when you're stressed you make decisions out of survival now if we think people are in charge of billions of dollars and Building Technology that can genuinely change lives we don't want them making bad decisions because they're stressed we don't want them making bad decisions because they're not aware that they have some sort of childbase wound that makes them want to extract money versus build something that is better so this is important so like yeah read it later um this was a um this was a poll that I did for ECC where it gives you some stats about where our community is if you see most people are feeling not great anxious me tired some people are feeling good which is good um but also these are some of the challenges that are incredible stressors for our nervous systems and these are very very real elements of our ecosystem like that can put you into intense stress and we need to be mindful of that and we need to make sure that the people building in this ecosystem have ways of dealing with these things or we as an ecosystem are dealing with those things and are aware of those things um burnout that was also me so um uh 70% said they burn out at least once so that's not good um anxiety is on the daily most of the time so so um again a very very important factor especially when we want this to be something that The Talented humans are building in this ecosystem kind of do it more than a year or two um you get the gist okay um sorry do you want to take a photo I mean do it quick um but you get it so um again this was something that I did at ECC and this would be the Practical thing that I'm suggesting so a human protoc call that's like puts the focus on the humans behind the tech because I think there should be a base protocol a base layer protocol that focuses on the humans if we want all of us here to continue being creative to continue having energy to do this to continue making decisions from a higher Value Place we need to have regulated nervous system systems and we need to be aware of what it is that we're doing why we're driving certain things why we're making certain decisions how we're making those decisions and I think this needs to be implemented the same ways we talk about tech protocols a human protocol is as important as far as I'm concerned uh these are the benefits and the purpose and the vision obviously um and here just because when you talk about therapy you talk about anything like this it's very scary I'm not saying that people are crazy although a lot of us are but these are kind of the stages you don't get have to have Go full Ham on like get everybody on the team therapy you can start very small like a pilot and then implement it and then grow from there in stages which I think is again a very very important thing to do something gradual because again not everybody is comfortable with a lot of things when it comes to therapy when it comes to stress management when it comes to um again regulating a nervous system most people don't know how to do that and it's an important very important tool um to have and then uh yeah this is a great meme I made it um and then yeah thank you how much over was I what did I

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